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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2011, 12:03:46 AM »
I weighed it once on the fruit scales at Golden circle when it had ALL the gear on it. Big tank, intercom system, UHF & AM CB's, footboards for pillion, plus all what was on there recently, with about 1/3 tank of fuel - 326kgs! I'm only 68kgs though so that'd make it go better, eh?
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2011, 11:46:09 PM »
great stuff,
i noticed when i had my gear rack and the larger standard tank
on the bike made it that much heavier, so i took the rack off
and put the special tank back on and ill keep the standard tank for longer
trips. 
ur lucky tho with the 16 in rim that theres more choices available
for tyres.

and happy 300,000k   ;D
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2011, 11:11:43 PM »
Pete, mine's going like a train! Combine the slightly lower gearing and losing about 30 kgs and you get the effect of adding probably 10-15 hp to it! It's great. I haven't taken the big fairing off yet as there's been lots of weather up this way lately, but it'll be coming off sooner, rather than later. Only taken it for one trip to work so far, and with the new tyre on, took it rather steadily, but at 120kph, it's gained about 400 rpm at that speed. It is much quicker off the mark, too.
I researched some tyre sizing scales on the bridgestone site, and according to them, a Spitfire tyre at 130/90-16 , 130/90-17 and 130/90-18 only have a 3 percent difference in rolling circumference between each size. I thought it would be more, but those are the figures they gave me.
My bike rolled over its 300,000th kilometer this week, so I'm going to give her a run out to Paradise Dam to celebrate and take a few pics of the occasion. Hopefully, I can lure Steptoe out for the ride as it's the best stretch of road in these parts.
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2011, 09:07:05 PM »
lol yep ev something like that,

but im wrapped atm, ill ride it 4 a bit then recheck
valve clearances and retorque head bolts, the engine
is realy quiet compared to how it was.

ev, hows urs going, i saw on the .com site uve changed wheels
and lightened the bike up.  i didnt think there was much difference
between the 17 and 16 in rims?
Peter
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2011, 08:39:10 PM »
Good to hear it's all come together for you, mate. I think that camchain thing is what is termed "a blonde moment" and we all have one of them from time to time. I'll bet you're rapt with the way the bike runs now, eh? She'll be good for another 20 years.
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2011, 08:07:55 PM »
well after a shitty week,
the bikes all done, had a small exhaust leak
which has been fixed, the knocking i had at idle is gone too,
have done the run in, the bikes kicking arse and pulling
really hard, its one of those things i shouldve done much earlier.
Peter
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2011, 03:40:01 PM »
lmao, i knew u'd ask.   ;D

i tried putting the chain over the cogs b4 i screwed down
the cams, its not like i havent done it b4,
ive had a cpl of things on my mind which didnt help,
she's all abck together,
im about to go fire her up and take her out to run it in........



hopefully   :D
Peter
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2011, 01:28:54 PM »
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was the dumbass mechanic that was doing it wrong.

Explain, please???

Was it something to do with the tensioner?
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2011, 01:03:24 PM »
all good,
the chain is the correct 1,
was the dumbass mechanic that was doing it wrong.   ;D


i pulled the sump off, and found a broken bit of bakerlite,
looks like its part of the hi vo chain guide,
probably explains the knock im getting at idle,
ill put it all back and see how it goes.
Peter
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2011, 10:40:24 AM »
hey ev, thats exactly what ive done, i replaced the chain
when i had the barrels off, and went to put the chain around the 2nd
cog and the bugger wouldnt fit, so im going to have to cut this new one
and put another 1 on.

i sent the guy a msg  with a short reply, ""its the right 1.
well if it was it would fit.
Peter
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2011, 12:46:30 AM »
Pete, I hope you didn't get to the point of threading it through your motor, and finding out it's too short. I found out, the hard way that Star Yamaha, on Brissie's northside, got it wrong 2 times! Boy. Was I pissed off?. I dropped the chain into the cases once, but managed to fish it out with a magnetic pickup thingie, but I'd rather think of happier times.
Georgefix is normally a really clued up seller of all things XS, so I hope you'll get things sorted out with him quickly.
Errol
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 10:28:27 PM »
this is the chain i goy off ebay

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/YAMAHA-XS1100-XJ1100-CAM-CHAIN-/360397037627?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e956603b

he seems pretty good according to the .com site,
im sending him a msg but i bought it ages ago
so i doubt anything will come from it
Peter
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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 10:23:14 PM »
lol yep jonesy the head and barrels from the pool table.

i did the shims the same way as pg did, but i held
the shim in one of the buckets from the head which made
it easier to hold, i wouldnt do it again either,
i was being pretty anal in that i wanted the gaps
all exactly the same, each step of a shim (.5) is a whisker
under 2 thou, i was trying to remove a thou.

well i replaced the pistons, got the barrells back on,
at the same time i replaced the cam chain, when putting the cams
back on the fucker doesnt
fit,its to tight,  its seems its about a link and a bit short,
 so im up for another chain.



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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 10:00:17 PM »
I've done the grind-the-shims thing,  did about 4 or 5 and never again.  Started off with coarse sandpaper on a flat surface and a billion hours later the thickness had only dropped about the width of a piece of tinfoil with ten times that to go.   Ended up using blue-tack on a stick to hold the shim against a benchgrinder and after a million measurements with micrometer,  finished it off with the sandpaper. 
pretty much impossible to get perfect equalness across the whole shim but can get close enough.   PITA compared to buying a few new shims

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Re: piston rings/ honing tool
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 05:05:45 PM »
Hey Pete,
How'd you do the grinding? on a sheet of glass with paste or wet n dry

Is this the head and barrels that was spread across your pool table when I called in all those months ago?
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