81 XS 1100 Start

[excess.11]

Then there s this for aluminium repairs ................

http://www.durafix.com.au/index.php?content=home.htm

[BrettS]

Disolving in fuel was my biggest worry. I bumped into a mate that said he used this stuff to fix a fuel tank leak so sounded the go.
Checked the website and got this.

SEALS LEAKS UNDER WATER OR IN FLUIDS: QUIKSTEEL cures under water and in all atmospheric conditions. Leaks can be sealed inside a container, tank, etc. with liquids still in the item to be sealed. For example, if a gasoline or diesel fuel tank has a rupture, QUIKSTEEL will seal the leak while the drainage is occurring. No need to empty the container prior to repair.

IMPERVIOUS TO CHEMICALS: QUIKSTEEL is impervious to chemicals, solvents, oils, and acids including battery acids.

So fingers crossed it will be ok.

Since the hole was already there I did the wire as well. This is aluminium bonsai wire  I had to tie it at the top as it fowled the float cover at the back.




Yes the float still moves free and the float cover fits back on  I will let it set for hours as the jets soak now. I gave the jets another squirt with carby cleaner. I am not sure they will come good the tiny holes seem well clogged. Is it much trouble to buy new ones?

Hey Errol no worries putting this in workshop. I am still finding my way around the board and where to post.

[Eveready1100]

Do a quick check first to make sure that quick steel won't melt in fuel. That would be bad.
If you tie off the post like in Steptoe's video, depending on the break positon, it'll be good as new. Use stainless wire if possible.
I'd ridden my bike around for ages before discovering the broken post in my carbs. Was alright on the move, but only reared its head when sitting idling, and it would flood slightly on one carb. Didn't upset it running, though. Only smelt a bit rich.

Might have to get this thread moved over to Workshop as it's getting that way.

[BrettS]

Yep Jeff, you may have missed that I said this post was already broken. I got all the others out no worries.
Looks like steptoe or someone watching that video has done the same sought of repair except they added a bit of putty as well.

I've got some quick steel that I reckon will do the job for now. I might put a bit of wire back through as well. I will do that now so it can set while the jets are soaking in carby cleaner.
The jet that is inset down some under the float cover looks pretty clogged on all 4 carbies so they will need a good soak.

Looks like I am in the market for a new set of carbies 

[excess.11]

Brett , the subject of the posts breaking i mentioned to you yesterday.......and is covered in a number of posts previously talked about on here..here s one link i found.........

http://xs1100.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=1117.0

If there is a need to remove the other pins for the remaining carby floats..........Jonesy fashioned up a simple tool...flat steel....... drill a couple of holes where the posts are and weld a nut on one end with a bolt to pressure the pin out while the 2 posts remain firm sitting through the 2 drilled out holes.
I ll see if i can find the post on that....i think there was a pic as well.

Here tis............
http://xs1100.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=1059.0

[BrettS]

Thanks Miti 

I have a broken float post. I was getting the pins out sweet as. Then came across one that had a previous repair. I was tempted to just leave it alone worried that it would re break but decided that I needed to try. It was harder to get out and the repair did not hold. It was repaired with a putty substance and a wire staple through a hole then over the top.

I read that welding is good but I might try some expensive glue for now. Any suggestions?

[Miti]

... seemed to idle well but didn't seem to ark up when I gave it some accelerator.

Probably won't until you sort the carbs out...

Fuel in the airbox is caused by at least one float vale not shutting correctly

Poor "off idle" throttle response is (often) caused by gummed up emulsion tubes - These are the long brass inserts that the carb main jet screws into the bottom of and the needle valve slides out/in of the top of (as the throttle is opened/closed).

The emulsion tubes allow the fuel drawn up from the float bowl to mix (emulsify) with air drawn in via the carb venturi.  Each one has 4 rows of tiny holes along it's length and these can really get rammed with shitey muck precipitating out of the fuel.

It's not that hard to clean the emulsion tubes, but the carbs MUST come off and be subject to a partial strip/clean.  I see you've already got the airbox off... If you did that without removing the carbs, then the emulsion tubes are gonna be a doddle...

Miti

[Eveready1100]

Have a look through his posts, or check out his photobucket album which is linked through his signature. - CLICK. There's plenty of choice pics on there. His bike made the XS1100 US calendar last year, so some of those folks must've liked it too.

[BrettS]

Hi Bryan 
Yes I saw Bryan's bike do 107 on the dyno even before I joined the forum LOL. It is sweet too.

I can't seem to find much about it does he have more about the bike some where?

Did you see the vid of the other Cafe racer i posted I thought that was pretty tasteful as well.

[Eveready1100]

Did you have the choke pulled on when you were attempting to start it before? Mine won't fire unless the choke is pulled fully on when cold, and doesn't like any help from the throttle either. Once it starts, it only runs for a few moments before the revs rise and I have to switch it to the second notch, otherwise it will rev its guts out then start to blubber.

Considering there is no primer

Regarding this phrase, when I mentioned the prime position on the fuel taps, this only bypasses any vacuum operated valves that are in the system. You have none, so don't worry about that.
Just make sure the taps are set to "OFF" before beddy byes, or you may wake to a large puddle of fuel under the bike in the morning.

Regarding

Then it will be time for a full rebuild.

If your talking about the cafe racer look, have you seen Bryan's (AUSSIEXS11G) 's bike?
I'd say about as neat a cafe as can be made out of an XS, very tastefully done, and it goes!!!!

Check this - CLICK

[BrettS]

 

It seems the fuel is flowing down to the carbs but something is not quite right with the carbies so I will follow Jeff's advice and pull the carbies out take the bottom float bowl off and give them a bit of a clean. Once that fuel starts flowing it should be good.

I wanted to check the exaust outlets as it seemed a bit loud at the front, Not sure as it would not idle long enough to get a good listen. Was under the veranda as well 

More fun tomorrow   
Cheers Brett

[Eveready1100]

[quoteIIt runs!![/quote]

That's great mate. Now you can relax and go through the motions and have a quiet one while you sort the rest out.

Regarding the fuel flow, are taps set to "on" and enough fuel in the tank? if so, a quick check of the filters (they can clog up) then check the taps themselves. With the fuel line disconnected, does fuel run out when turned to "on?"

A quick thank you to Jeff, who chimed in just when I hadn't explained things clearly enough.


Must be a mind reader, as I was out washing my wifes' car at the time. (white car, red soil area = a bloody mess!)

At this rate, Brett, you won't be a for long!

[BrettS]

Had a great chat with Jeff on the phone.  You guys are very helpful, much appreciated 

I will endeavour to pull the carbies of and give them a clean out tomorrow. Hopefully that will get some more life into it.

I am looking forward to getting to know the bike and I reckon I will try various options before I decide on a final plan. Then it will be time for a full rebuild.
Best laid plans and all 

[excess.11]

Brett.........check your PM s

[BrettS]

Thanks Jeff I was wondering what that was. I will get some of the CO cleaner and go right over it.

I have fired it up a few more times and it seems that the fuel is not getting through. I can squirt some juice down each carby and it will fire up but won't keep going.
Considering there is no primer is there anything I can do apart from a full rebuild of the carbies at the moment.
I took the drain plug out of one of the floats and it drained then stopped with the fuel in the on position.