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XS1100 Topics => Modifications => Topic started by: Jonesy :-) on January 16, 2014, 04:54:20 PM

Title: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 16, 2014, 04:54:20 PM

Been thinking about the rear wheel adaptor and the off centre line of rim and wheel hub, and I came up with an idea to eliminate or at least drastically reduce the off set the very rough sketch below gives an idea of what I have in mind
...........slow burning topic/mod ahead

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F822%2Fmhxk.jpg&hash=8ecad2ffade836b43aab9dbbccd66119858e2852)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: steptoe on January 18, 2014, 12:37:23 PM

would you be able to use slightly different length spokes to pull the hub off centre instead of or as well as the adaptor,,

being fifo for 6 mths,, this is going to be a very long slow burning mod, unless workshop still does "foreigners" ::)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 20, 2014, 04:41:08 PM

Yeah Steptoe it'll be a combo of new style adaptor and different length spokes as there will still be about 5mm offset compared to about 15 that the first one had, but, the old style adaptor does retain the plastic guard between wheel and diff for that "OEM factory" look. still a long way for this mod to go yet.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on June 15, 2015, 03:51:50 PM

Step 1
remove wheel from donor bike
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F538%2F977ZA5.jpg&hash=3e0773d00d9b9cc81001e2fdda5df7c5880f7608)
Step 2
remove donor hub from donor wheel from donor bike with a 9" hub donor tool
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F633%2FpRsrux.jpg&hash=4997916c4eb635fcc75de63bb0f371b88f74a7ba)
Step 3
Reward yourself for 12 months of FIFO work with one of these hub converting machines
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F908%2FPKtlJ1.jpg&hash=8d337b2445b728ae8731c6f594b81a5eb60b02b2)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on June 16, 2015, 11:58:19 AM

Step 4
Set the chopped out hub in 4 jaw chuck.
I used the brake disc mounting face and the Bearing housing as dial indicator references to get radial and axial planes to within approx 0.03mm or <0.002" before machining off remains of mag wheel spoke stubs left behind by the 9"donor tool.
Things will probly slow down again now until I can source some billet material and a boring bar.


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Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on June 16, 2015, 04:31:34 PM

Jealous  8)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on June 16, 2015, 07:59:42 PM

Me too Bretto - love wire wheels   ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: SCARFEY on June 16, 2015, 09:40:55 PM

Nearly got my old Beemer going. I have to replace the spokes so I'm going to cheat and do them one at a time.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on June 17, 2015, 05:10:29 PM

Thats how I am doing my MZ wheels - one spoke at a time.... ::)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on June 17, 2015, 10:33:25 PM

Mmmmmmmmm..boys and their toys........a mate showed me his latest purchase . ;D :P
 
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1002.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf142%2FExcess11%2F20150616_155524_zps7anbkfnw.jpg&hash=a6204661068bddd1e62886a6e1e66d850566f8e7) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/Excess11/media/20150616_155524_zps7anbkfnw.jpg.html)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: SCARFEY on June 17, 2015, 10:48:22 PM

Can he get Foxtel on it. ????

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 02, 2015, 08:20:14 AM

one step closer.
Billet Alloy arrived yesterday, can you picture it yet?  :D

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F633%2FRjRLHA.jpg&hash=a102f0b205521a8bd2311f99dba86445ea555f70)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Aussiexs11 on July 02, 2015, 01:04:22 PM

Looking good Paul,
So how do you fit this adaptor over machined hub and keep it secure? Screws / retaining bolts or shrink /pressfit?
I think I can see where you are headed here.
Drilling for spokes will aso be an art I think. getting angles right?
Good luck, will watch with interest.

BTW, you still FIFO?  Im finishing my QLD /home oddessey this month, back to Sydney to new role in CBD.

regards
Grant

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: XSIIE on July 02, 2015, 04:44:02 PM

I got a spare wheel or 3 to be modded  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 02, 2015, 06:43:03 PM

Hey Grant,
Shrink/press fit and pinned
resume WA fifo at the end of month for a couple of months, then maybe qld?
doing the inside counter sinks for the spoke holes is the tricky bit........

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 03, 2015, 06:50:30 PM

Eddy, I'm going to document what's involved "here" and this time I''ll also draw up dimensions, add up the time involved and material costs and see if its worthwhile for me and you or anyone else interested to "do extras"

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 03, 2015, 07:41:42 PM

Hey jonesy.....having been an previous owner of an xs1100 with wire wheels...what are/were....the advantages/disadvantages of this mod ?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 03, 2015, 09:20:55 PM

Does there have to be a logical reason for modifications besides the fact that i just like em?  :)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: XSIIE on July 03, 2015, 09:35:42 PM

Or you could just use Bretts mantra

"if it aint broke...modify it" :-X

Eddy

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 04, 2015, 05:20:00 AM

"Just liking them" IS a logical reason  ;D
Are spoked rims hard to come by to suit the tyre size for the front and rear ...of which is my next question. What size and profile tyres will you be selecting according to the spoked rims and rear swingarm restriction ?.
Do you recall what the weight difference was ? With the standard exhaust and the associated low down grunt is there the possibility of tyre spin on the rim ? With the enquirys re braided brake lines ....i see on your old bike you had these with the underslung rear caliper . Do you recall if they were store bought or custom made lines you had in the day ?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 04, 2015, 08:27:08 AM

Man you sure ask a lot of questions :)
Standard rim sizes are readily available for the front. Last time i went for an 18" rear due to more tyre choices back in the day, and more room to lace up for the 15m offset in hub to rim centerline, still havent decided on rim size for the rear yet, and to be honest havent shopped around to see whats available but ill be sticking to standard 110 and 130 tyre widths front and rear respectively. Weight saving is minimal, the majority is in the hub and brake disc. Tyre spin on the rim wasnt a drama back then and there are more powerful bikes than these that dont have rim locks. Brake lines were store bought, venhill i think?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 04, 2015, 09:00:25 AM

My mind does nt let me sleep some nights  :'(
An sometimes.......I go to bed with questions......and wake up with the answers  :D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 07, 2015, 08:34:54 AM

Not wanting to waste good material as swarf on the shed floor I removed the bulk of material in one piece. Next is to get me a boring bar and remove the rest of the material out to the pencil line to fit over the hub

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F538%2FIroHyq.jpg&hash=95da455569479aad594c233de2b0ac0f16ffcd80)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 07, 2015, 04:45:26 PM

I have no questions at this point in time... ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 07, 2015, 04:50:58 PM

Good, i have no answers  ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: makzy on July 09, 2015, 06:58:25 AM

I have a question Jonesy, did you use your lathe to remove the billet from the center ?
If so what tool did you use cos i want one!

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 09, 2015, 08:14:57 AM

Yeah Max, I used the lathe, with a 120 mm hole saw in the tail stock and running lathe at 60 rpm (slow as it goes) Took about an hour + of cutting time. Saw wasn't deep enough to go right through so had to turn billet around, re-true it and come in from both sides

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: makzy on July 10, 2015, 06:44:54 AM

Yeah thought you might have done that, i tried to shape a parting tool once to remove a 150mm center from a 19mm plate that i was making a pump flange out of.
Failed!! just wanted to save the center piece cos i'm a tightarse!!!

Title: Re:christmas in july
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 21, 2015, 07:40:35 PM

these arrived today, front hub sorted, and tools to help progress the rear hub.
I'm not sure yet, but hopefully the blue spot calipers will clear the spokes
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F661%2FZ7cn4k.jpg&hash=7854034ea5f1ec75dada0b1498609d447a6954b5)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 21, 2015, 08:43:40 PM

Where did the front hub come from ? ???

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: XSIIE on July 21, 2015, 10:05:27 PM

From an exotic port called The Bay of Eeeeness

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 21, 2015, 10:33:53 PM

yep, been trolling the bay for this little beauty for about a year now

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 22, 2015, 06:15:44 AM

I m no wiser than when i first asked  ???  ;D
Is it a generic hub or model specific to suit whats needed for the Almighty eleven ?
Geewizbay is a big caverness black hole that can consume your life. :P

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 22, 2015, 08:13:48 AM

New old stock. part number on the box. Suits XS 650, TX 750, etc. Singapore dealer

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on July 22, 2015, 06:25:00 PM

is that hub set up for twin rotors?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 22, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

I was wondering that as well Bryan.... ???

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 22, 2015, 06:43:51 PM

Indeed, that's why I waited so long for em to become available.
EDIT: Bryan, see pm

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on July 22, 2015, 07:16:29 PM

I can't see the PM ?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 22, 2015, 07:19:07 PM

That s the general idea of a PM Bretto.... ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on August 13, 2015, 06:31:51 PM

hmm, could be just what i need for a hubless trike,
or....rims for my wire wheel project, I've had these for about 20 years, sitting in a pile of useless handy junk under an old gum tree up the paddock, cleared away all the leaf litter and lo and behold 19" front rim and 18" rear, I think they were off an old GS 750 suzuki wrecker i had, that some ol mate wanted the hubs out of. Chrome is exceptionally good considering 20 years out in the elements and should polish up quite nicely. another piece of the jig saw comes together. I was originally going for new alloy rims but hadnt found exactly what I was looking for, and now these have presented themselves and cost me zilch.
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F661%2FDZv1Da.jpg&hash=105395f2e815656fb1ff318cd6a5f24055f74060)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on August 14, 2015, 06:34:16 AM

Do something different Jonesy....go the "Hubless Trike" option. ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on August 23, 2015, 09:29:53 PM

umm maybe I spoke (no pun intended) too soon, literally, in the cool light of day the chrome ain't as good as I thought, 50/50 chance the rims are still serviceable, but for a project, aesthetically they don't pass scrutiny.
back to the search button.

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(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg909%2F5364%2Ft0KPdr.jpg&hash=d3c961d06cecad5f6e9ae01fe2454efeed1dac38)
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Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: steptoe on August 24, 2015, 10:34:57 PM

could there be someone who rebuilds the metal and rechromes if there is such a thing, if the unobtainable is unobtainable

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on August 25, 2015, 10:30:58 PM

yeah Steptoe, there is but they would probly charge an arm and a leg, doubt if they could beat the 18 and 19 inch rims I saw on ebay last night for $260 would've bought on the spot but the description didnt give the widths and sale ended before i could get a reply to the q i asked. they were BIN so might get relisted

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on April 04, 2016, 08:52:01 PM

spent a couple more hours in the workshop and got the project a little further advanced.
got the adaptor on to the hub and machined the disc side spoke angle 15deg.  adaptor to hub is a light interference fit, but will be scotch keyed for extra security

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F921%2F8nKgtx.jpg&hash=78c974ca27ae0bbab3797b178bcaf045a4e0bbef)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: steptoe on July 11, 2016, 08:17:17 PM

Looks like the man knows what he's doing, very neat looking work

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 12, 2016, 07:03:40 AM

some behind the scenes work........getting my scribbled notes into a working drawing



(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F921%2F9e3Ai6.jpg&hash=2d00f53ccbf1039c9173fff91f8d4c5a29cbadd7)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: steptoe on July 12, 2016, 09:20:58 AM

can see you know how to do that,,,  if it was me the rubber would be 1/3  that size

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 21, 2016, 10:23:07 PM

Turns out my new lathe is just a tad too small to complete one step in the machining process  :(  so, after one of the members helped me put together some smick CAD drawings,(thanks Bryan) regretably i have to get some outside help from a local machine shop to do that one step. Will post some pics of it after farmed out work is done and attach cad drawings with all dimensions if anyone wants to do there own,
Still looking for a xs650 back rim if anyone has or knows of one

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 21, 2016, 11:02:48 PM

One for sale on ebay atm.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 23, 2016, 10:54:09 AM

Yeah mate, been trawling the bay waiting for the right one to turn up

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 23, 2016, 02:49:01 PM

That's not the right one?
Is it a price $445.00.... condition or model reason why it may not be the right one?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-XS650-Rear-Wheel-/231964931108?hash=item36022ff424:g:kGkAAOSwxndXT6I~
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1002.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf142%2FExcess11%2FXS650%2520SPOKE%2520REAR%2520WHEEL%2520EBAY_zpsbtubxou4.jpg&hash=192be7d2a95a317d9e0902222c5e594e5c61ac2c) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/Excess11/media/XS650%20SPOKE%20REAR%20WHEEL%20EBAY_zpsbtubxou4.jpg.html)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on July 23, 2016, 07:57:35 PM

All of the above, $445  i only want the rim and its scratched and buckled.....waiting waiting waiting. Took a year to find the front hub. patience grass hopper

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on July 24, 2016, 07:03:04 AM

Ahh so....i see you have patience my little one......
The wise man on the mountain always say ...wax on...wax off and in time...you too may achieve enlightenment.

So here s a couple of references you can try if you have nt already.
www.robinawreckers.com.au
The xs650 club forum.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: rasputin on August 13, 2016, 09:52:14 AM

If you have a chrome shop available, you can sandblast the old chrome off your old GS rims. Use aluminum oxide media (which will leave a blue looking jet trail when chrome is still present) and you can avoid the heavy expense of them trying to remove it. Some shops won't do it at all. Just my 2 cents worth.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on September 26, 2016, 08:30:27 PM

Another piece of the jigsaw comes together, found a period XS 650 rear rim for less than 1/2 the price of the ebay one above.
Front rim sourced by Eddy at a swap meet (thanks mate) both require hydro blasting and polishing. front hub(s) got 2 now, one from Eddy's swap meet find and a NOS one from Ebay. Rear hub still a work in progress, if I can manage to string a few days in a row at home I'll be off to the local machine shop to get some machining done.

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F800x600q90%2F922%2FNRXpkg.jpg&hash=5c9fbf5bd6fc2dc26e42ca16690257a345b23b4a)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on September 26, 2016, 10:41:34 PM

That's great, Jones
I love the wire wheels....

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on November 13, 2016, 07:42:30 AM

got this back from the machine shop on Friday.
still need to counter sink spoke eyelets and pin spoke adaptor to hub, but pretty happy the way it came up.
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F922%2F3y11W3.jpg&hash=bcae99f7e027a28babbac5abf956c8781728b0cd)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Christian Raith on November 13, 2016, 01:12:06 PM

 ;D
Looks XSellent

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on November 13, 2016, 04:46:36 PM

Good to see you keeping the economy going! Looks like they did a good job.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Eveready1100 on November 18, 2016, 08:20:00 PM

Pssst! Hey Jonesey, look at this!! - http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p533462204

It's one of THEM!!!!!! OMG!!!

Anyone speak Japanese?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: XSIIE on November 18, 2016, 08:33:24 PM

It is about AUD$250 plus shipping.

Bargain.

Eddy

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on November 18, 2016, 09:58:33 PM

Heaps cheaper than mine ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on December 31, 2016, 09:22:48 AM

got another step done on the hub yesterday. Counter sinking the spoke holes.
Re-sharpened a drill to give it an almost square tip compared to normal one on the left to give the the holes an almost flat bottom
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F922%2FNWC3Im.jpg&hash=f6877cd702bd9350093afa9de4a349f4a371f891)
Then substituted the axle with 20mm threaded bar and nut to act as a clamp while drilling. 36 individually lined up holes later the external countersinks were done. you can also see one of the three locking pins i did earlier. to prevent the awesome power of the XS spinning the adaptor on the hub
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F923%2Fdq6uTl.jpg&hash=5ec8a904ba3a55bfb7e17ba67c86c4bdfa0fe438)
Next it gets interesting doing the internal countersinks.....................

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on December 31, 2016, 10:34:14 AM

Something like this maybe Jonesy?
http://cogsdill.com/product/flipcut/

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on December 31, 2016, 04:01:50 PM

Love your work, Jones - I am envious of you tradesmen and your abilities.......

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on January 01, 2017, 05:40:52 AM

Gota love a well sharpened drill and solid clamp. I'd love a drill press :)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 01, 2017, 01:06:46 PM

Looks like the perfect tool for the job Jeff. But I'll be taking the tight arsed bakyard engineerin approach by  converting a standard drill to run backwards

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on January 01, 2017, 11:25:56 PM

I surprised a couple with my two step drill that I formed to drill a sheet in place while drilling the backing for a thread. I even surprised I got it to work lol.
Looking forward to seeing your creation.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 11, 2017, 03:30:37 PM

start with a normal drill and reduce the shank, grind a new cutting edge, then cut off reduced shank section so its short enough to fit between spoke flanges. drill bit has to be removed and replaced in drill chuck for each hole (keyless chuck is a must for this job), run drill backwards and you have an inside back to front LH countersinking bit, simples.
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F923%2FFx0HBw.jpg&hash=91dc45753a4904eb9c8f481abba86afae64974c3)
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F923%2F2y04U2.jpg&hash=43437bd54cb39fa4e4cdf9639336796e51817ec8)
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F922%2FmhyHOe.jpg&hash=b594504e91fd7c479d08179b3b12204a98586b91)
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F922%2Fg1d4T9.jpg&hash=2bad44277a3d1730f8b74330d94213a8e9e803f3)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: steptoe on January 11, 2017, 06:53:14 PM

ingenuityat it,s best,, and it works to boot, onya

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on January 11, 2017, 08:39:04 PM

Well done Mr Jones.....what do you reference for a depth guage ?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 11, 2017, 09:41:43 PM

Depth guage by eye ;)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on January 12, 2017, 09:43:04 AM

I never cease to be impressed by this work....

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 16, 2017, 02:27:04 PM

tapping threads for the plastic final drive cover, to give it that factory look  ;)

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F924%2FZo6pG9.jpg&hash=555ec88372ac2a2cc3d210b5bbdd09387065d65f)

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F640x480q90%2F923%2FwwEGQJ.jpg&hash=0873d6087a56ebfa5e7200ac0a36df50fa9045ed)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: steptoe on January 16, 2017, 10:41:33 PM

you are deadset a man of ideas and talent and action,, looks great

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 25, 2017, 05:09:58 PM

Getting close now, a little over 2 years since thread started the Rims and hubs are packed ready for the wheel restorer to do his magic
P.S.
bought 3 new wheel bearings and 2 seals for $36.......bloody cheap Ay, gottem all from a 3 letter bearing company
EDIT: oh yeah $36 includes a metre each of 3 & 4 mm "O" ring cord to replace the ones that caused steptoes clicky wheel

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Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: steptoe on January 26, 2017, 12:49:41 AM

are the wheels being done somewhere kind of local as in Sydney or are you sending them further afield?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on January 26, 2017, 07:36:53 AM

In sydney at Chris squires wheel repairs. Got a quote from a certain wheel repairer in qld that advertise in old bike australia but he was $300 dearer

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on January 29, 2017, 05:01:45 PM

Love the drill. Is the wheel restorer adding the spokes?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on February 06, 2017, 06:22:00 PM

Yeah Brett,
He's also hydro blasting the rims, and rolling out a small dent in the front rim. I settled for just a hydro-blast as it was going to cost an arm and a leg to get all the years of scratches and life on the road polished outo.  Chrisso won't have the only set of spoked wheels, but he'll have the shiniest

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: hen on February 11, 2017, 12:11:13 PM

Could be up for Modified  Trophy   by a Mexican    ::)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on February 11, 2017, 01:37:16 PM

Mexican? .........has someone from Vic got spokes too?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: hen on February 13, 2017, 10:13:32 PM

Guess what you are from down south  and over the border maybe we can build a tunnel to save all you fine people  ::)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on February 14, 2017, 06:35:35 PM

A tunnel is a good idea if qld pays for it.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: hen on February 15, 2017, 07:33:12 PM

NSW is the wealthy state Because they have sold everything and  people have sold up and come to the Perfect state  :'(

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: makzy on February 15, 2017, 09:08:41 PM

DITtO????

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on February 15, 2017, 10:30:27 PM

Anyway,the wheels should be ready in a couple of weeks

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Christian Raith on February 15, 2017, 10:59:57 PM

Quote from: hen on February 15, 2017, 07:33:12 PM

NSW is the wealthy state Because they have sold everything and  people have sold up and come to the Perfect state  :'(

Ahh Queensland perfect one day.....$74Billion in debt the next :-)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 08, 2017, 06:33:03 PM

Well, these turned up on the eve of the rally, too late to get rubber fitted and muck around with spacing to suit the blue spots.
Since they left to go to the wheel lacer its been a pretty poor showing from him, and the couriers involved getting it back to me as far as customer service goes.
2 months in the guys shop and $500 over the verbal quote, they got sent back on 13th April, landed in Bathurst on the 14th and sat in a transport depot till the 4th May where i eventually tracked them down with no help from the courier company whose customer service is a name only. 5 ph calls and about an hour and a half in a "queue" with no result................still waiting for "the manager" to get back to me
end of rant.....

But as far as the workmanship goes, very happy.
 tyres are now waitring at the bike shop to be fitted later this week when I can get them into town..............woo hoo

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Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on May 08, 2017, 07:13:46 PM

THIS I like........

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on May 08, 2017, 07:44:59 PM

Noice...

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 12, 2017, 06:32:55 PM

Getting close now.
Just a bit of fiddling with the blue spot clearances
Bit of info for the technical boffins
Original wheel  & tyre (130/90/17) 655 mm diameter 2057 mm circumference
Spoked wheel & tyre (120/90/18) 665 mm diameter 2089 mm circumference, difference 2%
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Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: SCARFEY on May 12, 2017, 08:35:05 PM

So cool

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on May 14, 2017, 10:02:29 PM

Looks awesome, is there much weight difference?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 20, 2017, 12:25:19 PM

weight feels pretty similar with discs on.......heavy!

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 20, 2017, 12:29:40 PM

Thought the brake discs could do with a bit of jazzing up before wheels get fitted to the "E" No:594
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Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on May 20, 2017, 12:35:51 PM

Damn Jonesy...........that s a nice ladder  :D
Looks like it flips out to be an Extension type one as well......you got it all bra!!  :)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 20, 2017, 12:45:33 PM

Thanks mate, ever since this topic started I've been trying to somehow work my awesome fold out ladder into a photo
Glad you noticed

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on May 20, 2017, 12:55:59 PM

Yeah.....I was so fixated on the Baileys Ladder............I had to reread it to notice the black circlerey things hanging offa it.
And.........good ole fencing wire to hang em on....will this and duct tape ever go out of fashion?  :)
And...the View...........I am soooo envious.
I say it again...........you got it all Bra  ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on May 20, 2017, 01:16:02 PM

Not getting them skimmed, Mine need a good grind but no pulsing.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 20, 2017, 03:35:29 PM

Nah, thought I'd try'em first, if no good I've got a back up set, if theyre no good then I'll think about skimming, fingers xd theyll be ok

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on May 20, 2017, 05:43:08 PM

got them on yet? c'mon mate

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 20, 2017, 06:17:06 PM

Soon, gotta wait for the paint to dry, get some s/s washers and fiddle with the blue spot spacing. Should be on by next weekend.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: beemeerr11 on May 20, 2017, 11:44:11 PM

Sorry to burst your Wire Wheel Bubble and Secret, but the picture alongside the Standard was a doggy wasn't it, your real intention is to put them on the RH and be really unique and win one of your own trophy's.

I can see you're moving from the dark side (Standard) to the New side (RH), you're just not willing to Come out just yet, but that's O.K. we're all understanding type folk here (LOL). Ohhh maybe EXCESS.11 will get really jealous and never forgive you if that is the case? Over to you Jeff.

Cheers
Lou

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 21, 2017, 11:41:22 AM

back wheel fitted, front wheel is in mock up, no bolts in discs etc, Mal P's caliper carriers are going to need some machining, plus thicker spacers behind the discs. the spokes are wider than the mags at the point where calipers are. I'll have to do search on blue spots where all the spacing info and wheel differences are talked about.
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Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on May 21, 2017, 02:01:24 PM

That rear looks great - there is always something else to be done when you start modding....

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 22, 2017, 07:01:09 PM

Thanks Horn.
Did some more fiddling with the blue spots and they just aint gunna fit, oh well, not to worry, wasnt that impressed with them any way but i was only using original rubber hoses.

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: beemeerr11 on May 22, 2017, 07:44:26 PM

Big swallow and gulp, the long wait has paid off, but that does look rather unique, well done

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on May 22, 2017, 08:04:04 PM

Wow Jonesy, that's a dam fine job.
It's like it had a sex change and became a Honda!

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: XS Cafe on May 22, 2017, 08:05:09 PM

I need this in my life

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on May 22, 2017, 08:14:14 PM

That's frelling HARSH, Bretto - a Honda???!!!

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: XSIIE on May 22, 2017, 09:36:12 PM

Yep, more like a laverda ;)

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on May 23, 2017, 02:37:48 PM

Not the mighty 750S - that's for sure    ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on May 24, 2017, 07:50:49 AM

Hey Mr Jones...nice work dude. A couple of inquiries if i may.
How close do the spokes come to the diff dust cover ?
What was the method/calculation to space holes for spokes in billet hub ?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on May 24, 2017, 08:29:00 AM

 ;D ;D
Tell them nothing...... Jones

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 24, 2017, 08:58:27 AM

 :-X
I ou  dwid ircl y bokes at iv u bace im greez
Boke mo buch ust cowa
 ;D

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: BrettS on May 24, 2017, 09:18:17 AM

You know how many times I tried to read that!

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 24, 2017, 09:21:36 AM

You know how long it took me to write it?

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: excess.11 on May 24, 2017, 09:47:07 AM

Bretto......I just used "Babelfish" translator..
So................."you went to Greece with a couple of blokes and made love to some cows"
I believe it was a meeting of the RH Owners organized by Lou to welcome Jonesy into the fold.
That's not what I asked!
But it s nice to share..
And Horn ......here s a friend of yours to say hello...
What s that you say Skippy? ...tsk..tsk....tsk.... tsk .
Ohhhh......you don t like Laverdas..
https://youtu.be/r3HkUKoGoc4

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: AussiXS11G on May 24, 2017, 10:51:34 AM

that's great - LOL

Title: Re: wire wheels
Post by: Jonesy :-) on May 24, 2017, 01:01:31 PM

Ok the gag has been removed

I ou  dwid ircl y bokes at iv u bace im greez
If you divide a circle by the number of spokes it gives you the spacing in degrees

Boke mo buch ust cowa
Spokes no touch dust cover