Indicator flasher relay thing

[Jonesy :-)]

Thanks Christian
With my limited electrical nouse I'm going to remove chrissos LED blinker set up and go back to OEM blinkers without self canselling. There is a slight twist. I have only one blinker light on the dashboard that works with either left or right indicating. If/when I screw it up, maybe I could arrange a visit to your workshop for some assistance?

[Christian Raith]

If you need to know about the blinkers give me a call, I've got circuits etc on how they work and how they can be modified.
You do NOT need load resistors if you use the correct stuff and there is a mod to use LED indicators with an electronic flasher unit with the standard cancelling system.

[excess.11]

the gigantic ancient clunky old 3-pin clickers were first used by noah
 on his ark, but somehow yamaha managed to find a stash of them and
 installed them on the xs11 along with the asbestos/mercury cyanide auto-cancel gadget in the speedo combined with the creaking old filament bulbs that first appeared
 back in ancient roman times,

it's why the indicators mostly won't operate unless the xs11's engine charging system (invented in around 1250 AD) is turning at least 7000 revs.  todays tiny 2-pin flashers and associated super-duper led bulbs blow the oem's prehistoric stuff into the weeds for efficiency,
but the extreme hardship of having to thumb the blinker switch back to centre to stop the flashing is likely to cause tendonitis or tennis elbow in the average xs11 rider, so that sadly rules the modern stuff out in most cases.

well,  mini led blinkers,  I've tried them,  soon realized they were rubbish,  went back to original large 12V bulb type,  the mini-led type are gimmicky and not real-deal. In the Harley bling category...  Too dull, weak and small to be of any real use,  and won't auto-cancel or even flash on an XS11 without resistors and junk,  original setup way better

Now PG.....In the words of one of Australia s most prominent stable Politicians...."Please explain?".

[hen]

To be honest I don't know if both modes of cancelling work I don't think so.
 I have never tested sorry.
 on both bikes I would have to look to see if unit is still there 

[excess.11]

I would get a second pic from hen...to see if the 3 wire connection on the bike it s off.... hasn t been reconfigured...from original colour coded pin configuration....to suit that particular flashers pins.
I would still like to know from Hen...if both modes of self cancelling worked with this unit .

[Jonesy :-)]

heres some pics of Hens relay he sent me
can sort of make out through the cover that the internals look mechanical, i can see a coil and a spring, I think?

[Jonesy :-)]

Yeah, nah, dunno what chrisso did
The only anomoly i know of, is i got a sparky mate to put the electrical version of a non return valve(s) in the circuit to make it work with only one blinker light on the dash.

[excess.11]

http://xs1100.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=2263.msg15135#msg15135

[Jonesy :-)]

Umm, what?
Please explain

[excess.11]

Soooo...was there a rather large resistor to be found in dissecting the LED setup?

[Jonesy :-)]

this is for my G model that I got back from chrisso
He has LED blinkers on it and 2 pin relay with illegible specs
I'm putting proper OEM style blinkers back on it. The self cancelling unit was thrown by me many moons ago on 1st round of ownership after it would cancel after 1 blink so new relay compatibility in that regard isn't an issue

Hen, Yes

[excess.11]

Hen did the self cancelling work with this flasher?......
Did both modes work? Time and distance?
Jonesy...which of your horde of bikes is this for ?
Also what are / were the sequence of events that led you to wanting a new flasher ?

[hen]

in a word
No
I will send you one on Phone then you can post if like

[Jonesy :-)]

got a pic hen?

[hen]

It will depend on if they are thermal/mechanical or electronic/relay .
Yup....first one you mentioned seems ok....second one...may be electronic as it seems they are quoting the load size of the relay.
I t s the pin orientation  that has to be correct as well.
Unless you can find an OEM secondhand unit....I would buy the 2 pin generic unit....if buying from an auto store.
There are so many ways auto cancelling can be achieved ...I would nt trust a generic one for this purpose.

Hello Rh (Scotty) has 3 pin electronic Mini (it is shorter then the average electronic) it only stipulates the main power must be fused with a 20AMP.