Clutch problem

[excess.11]

There are links to download a workshop manual for your bike.....It s a Standard "F" model .
I ll try and find a link for you.
remove the left engine cover plate........clip the inductor onto no1 spark plug wire.......slightly loosen the 2 allen head bolts holding the timing adjuster down at the timing plate.Tap the plate to adjust and align the pointer with the "F" mark at about 1100 rpm....retighten the 2 locking bolts.

Shim tools are available on ebay.........and are quite cheap.
you ll need the "Matrix in the workshop manual to crossreference the measurement under the camshaft with the new shim required if measurements are outside of whats specified.

[Jazz]

its a 1979 the motor number is 2h9110733
is there a link on how to check the timing and  the check shims?

[excess.11]

Carbies may just need a colortune and carbtune.....check the timing is right....don t overthink for the worse...
Also check and set the valve shims........
Check the easy ones first.

Also to help with problems specific to your bike......we ll need to know the year/model.....

[Jazz]

well i got the RWC today with no problem at all. But i've found that the bike has an engine miss on the left outer side cylinder, it's got spark but the plug was black, cleaned it and changed it  with one of the others and it still has a miss, next compression test and go from there. 

[Jazz]

I'm getting a RWC tomorrow and putting it on club reg Monday I've talked to a club and told them what I want to do ( no club stuff just ride) and they where ok with that. I'll see what happens. So far $40 for the club and $67.70 for 45 days reg

[excess.11]

And that my friend is why i still run full rego.

Married with children doesn t allow me to engage in a single mans lifestyle where i go riding off into the sunset for a day ride or club event whenever i feel like it.

I use my bike around once a week to get from "A" to " B" ( "not "....gone in the morning........cya tonight honey....scenario )..........and thats enough to keep on good terms at home ....and enjoy the ownership.....not to say.........i would nt mind mixing it more with fellow bikers at events etc.
Something i have to pick and choose though.

I can also have empathy for the club costs and resources being run down with club rego time , record keeping and efforts by inspections.....only never to see that owner again until needed for renewal again.

Having said that.....i can see where they are coming from.......but they are cutting their own throats in that it will limit the numbers to be drawn into their organisation .....over a period of time.

I would of thought.......far better to attract 100 people along for club rego..of which you may get 10 people to participate in other events/ways................than...........no one.... due to the restrictions put in place .

It s definately a "Catch 22" situation.

I also would of thought that the brotherhood of the motorcycling community would be only too keen to take most of the cost and control away from Vicroads just on principle alone......and to allow more people to ride and invest in older bikes.
 
End of Political comment................

[Fred]

Hey Jeff,

just got an email from the VJMC secretary yesterday as a general post out to all members.

He seems a little miffed seems that since the introduction of the new Club Plate Rego scheme in Victoria our membership has gone up significantly but is not reflected in club participation what did he expect?

He made a point of saying that unless you have been on at least four club related activities or made a contribution to the magazine or organized a shed day or similar event then the chapter secretaries may not (read are encouraged not to) sign your renewal form required by Vic roads.

So, by all means join up but take note that participation is expected.

[excess.11]

These bikes qualify for "Club Rego".
Depending on how much you wish to use the bike....................it is considerably less than full registration.
I believe the club you engage to register with for club rego........carries out the necessary roadworthy checks.
The VJMC Club might be an appropriate one to use.

[Jazz]

now its all cleaned and oiled and put back together aaaannnnnnddddd it works  now just to adjust it properly and get a RWC.

[Jonesy]

Clunking hard into first gear on the first ride of the day is in my opinion a bit of a yamaha trait, my TRX 850 and one of the XS's I have now do it so bad that after warm up I'll stop the motor, put it into first then start it with the clutch held in. even then the XS will pull forward abot a foot while it cranks to start then for the rest of the day they are both ok. 
Sometimes If I pump the clutch lever rapidly 1/2 a dozen times and then quickly select first it doesnt clunk as heavily?

Plate thickness and spring length are more of an issue if the clutch is slipping while your riding, like accelerating in the higher gears say 4th and 5th when the engine revs up freely but you dont get the forward motion to match

[Jazz]

sorry i should have said it better yes it rode fine last time it was ridden. what happens is when the bike is going you pull the clutch in and try to get a gear and it jumps forward and stops. i have pulled the pack apart and had it soaking all day in 10w40 oil i hope that is ok it's all i had. tonight i will ruff up the clutch plates check the thickness and check the lenth of the springs. put it together and see what happens. 

[Jonesy]

so it was fine last time ridden 2 years ago?

when you say it does nothing....you can pull the clutch in select a gear and release but goes nowhere? slipping? or wont disengage and wont let you select a gear without a massive clunk and lurch forward?

once had one that stuck together like yours after siiting for an extended time, stripped it and roughed up with coarse emery and it was ok after that....worth a try.

dont use a friction modified oil, these things like a good old school mineral oil.

some good descriptions of the symptoms will help determine  what to look for and how to remedy

[Jazz]

hi all
i have just got myself a xs1100 from a friend that has not ridden it for about 2 years. it started fine and runs nice but the clutch does nothing but feels good in the lever. i have topped up the oil, tried rocking it back and forwards to try and free it up. finally i've removed the clutch - the plates were stuck together. reassembled it but still does nothing. any ideas?