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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2012, 05:27:20 PM »
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2012, 05:16:11 PM »






howzat....
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2012, 11:40:42 AM »
I'm betting you're a happy little traveller now, Bryan.
So let's see, first run on the dyno at the Concours = 107hp
the second run a year or two later  = 103hp. We all put the loss down to general wear on the motor, valves not seating quite as well etc.
Now, from what I can make out on the graph, you're back at the 107hp mark, so the bigger carbs jetted properly have given back the horsepower lost in time. Have you made any other changes to the motor between the dyno runs?? It makes you wonder how much hp the freshly built motor in the first run might have achieved if it had these (sorted) carbys on back then??
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2012, 11:24:47 AM »
Hope you are not thinking "excessive" Xtian......  :D
I am wondering how much HP I would have at the wheel with a chain drive now.......
But first.....electronic ignition ;)
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2012, 11:03:06 AM »
Excellent work there Bryan.
Well done mate, may be an answer for me BUT your bike is like it's owner....
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2012, 10:21:05 AM »
Ok then.....
after hijacking Bert's thread in Workshop here
http://xs1100.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=1594.0
I have been to Bourke and back with the BS36 carbs fitted and have the following to report.

On receipt of the BS36 set (off an XJR 1200) I stripped and cleaned same, replaced all gaskets, O rings etc. I replaced the Main Jet (95) and Pilot Jet (40) with the Jets from my old BS34's (140 Main and 45 Pilot) All others remain stock for the XJR1200 units.
I set the fuel levels at ~5mm after frelling around with float heights - first time I have set fuel levels as opposed to float heights (I must have been lucky with my old BS34's that all the floats displaced the same volume of fuel)

So - the machine pulled well down low but was not keen to rev over 7k revs as discussed in Berts thread above.
After making a great contact at CONCOURS in Fred from Pro Cycle Dyno at Slacks Creek I bit the bullet and took my machine down to him on Monday last for sorting once and for all.



The optimal air/fuel ratio (AFR) is around 14.7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-fuel_ratio)
A lower ratio is richer and higher is leaner.

The red lines and text on the graph above is with my 140 Main Jets - at around 7k revs my AFR approached 17 - too lean to ignite and so my mis-firing (rather like a rev limiter)

Fred's first guess at increasing the Main Jet by 4 sizes to 160 proved close to perfect as the blue lines and text on the above graph show.

On Fred's advice I have dropped the needles to the second top groove.
He commented on how strongly my engine pulls at low revs and midrange and that the HP and Torque figures are a credit to the engineering of my engine.

So the upshot is this
BS34 to BS36 = more air = more fuel = bigger Mains......the +4 sizes being a rule of thumb according to the expert.

I will be away on the bike on the weekend and will be able to report on fuel economy next week.

Oh - and I have re-routed that throttle cable too.....
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2012, 03:20:20 PM »
I would re-route that cable too as Steptoe said "too tight"
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2012, 03:15:58 PM »
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I have balanced but not ridden yet......was waiting for tank to be painted but intend to fit as is
and have a run around the block this weekend
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2012, 01:46:23 PM »
bryan, have u had a chance to ride it yet?
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2012, 06:29:51 PM »
aww dunno, that angle coming out of the top looks a touch sharp, might be able to bend the bracket an extra degree or two to help, will end up cutting into the outer and slowing the decel response maybe,
some thing to keep an eye on, hows it feel to be doing your own work now

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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 09:57:14 PM »
yeh - turns out that was a snack - I just hope I made it with enough length for a little slack...

I will find out on Monday tomorrow - first run and balance etc
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2012, 11:05:29 AM »
todays job . . . make new throttle cable to suit XJ throttle block and BS36 carbs. . .
I have the parts. and the solder. flux etc watched a youtube vid for instructions. . .
 this is a first for me . . looks like a snack :)
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 07:35:33 PM »
Run the bike for a while and when you drain the carbs, if there is crap in there then you need filters.
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 07:15:13 PM »
tell me, and tell me true.....
do you guys use fuel filters?
I went to buy new ones today and one local m/c w/shop owner told me in a nasal voice..
"don't use em mate, so don't stock em"
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Re: Mikuni BS36 CV carbs for XS1100
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2011, 09:58:50 PM »
by all means Xtian....not a worry... ;D
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