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Offline makzy

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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2013, 09:33:54 PM »
Don't wanna steal ya thunder Errol but i found half a 4 ltr tin of mollybond in the dump earlier this year, cost me nothin and i got paid to find it!!!
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2013, 09:04:07 PM »
Thanks all. WTF Errol?

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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2013, 03:12:32 PM »
Just a heads up on the Molybond GA50. Pcked up a 500g tin from Blackwoods and the nice man gave it to me at trade price(for Bundy Sugar). Only cost me $80 instead of the RRP of $102!!!!
But it should last me a lifetime and then some.
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 06:58:11 AM »
Hey Brett
for wheel bearings just a GP bearing grease
I've got some red stuff, I think its Mobil SHC 220.........its also what I used on the splines in reply on your "wheels off now what" thread.
you don't want to go mixing clay based greases with other types as they tend to react with each other. Which might be what happened to Bryan's wheel splines at the start of this.
What cooper said about a thorough clean before hand is good practise.
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2013, 08:35:08 PM »
I use  extreme pressure 2 grease,,  or  Timcon wheel bearing grease

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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2013, 05:56:50 PM »
But what do ya's use on the bearings area?

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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2013, 05:36:47 PM »
Ga 50 is the ducks guts Ive used it on BMs drive shafts its pricey but you dont need to plaster it on either just enough to cover with a nice film.The important thing is ti clean up the splines thoroughly with a small pick with a toothbrush wire cleaner a nd a spray of carbie cleaner to get all the crap off when its nice and dry and spotless then do the necessary should be done everytime tyre is changed thats my advice others may say otherwise Coops
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2013, 01:21:46 PM »
Brett, just found an alternative grease that should do the splines well.
It's called MOLYBOND 50 -

Description
Molybond GA50 is an assembly compound containing 50% molybdenum disulphide powder in a lithium based grease
used as an anti-seize and anti-scuffing compound for metal parts which may reach temperatures up to 400°C. GA50
has excellent anti-seize capabilities compared to other nickel and copper based anti-seize compounds and is
extremely effective in preventing fretting corrosion in closely fitted parts assembled using freezing or heating
techniques. GA50 can be used for mechanisms which may not be lubricated during service life.
Areas of application
• Splines
• Heavily loaded slides or plain bearings
Features
• Extremely high load carrying capacity
• Excellent anti-seize properties, suitable for use
up to 400°C
• Meets Defence Standard 80-81/1, designation
ZX38
Directions for use
This product is usually applied by brush or dipping.
• Door hinges
• Roller door gear drives
• Wide temperature range -10°C to +150°C
• Meets DEF 2304 specification
• Does not contain copper, nickel, aluminium or
graphite
Technical data
Appearance.................................................. Black Paste
Consistency..................................................Paste
Thickener.....................................................Lithium
Lubricating Solids.........................................50% Molybdenum Disulphide
MoS2 Purity.................................................. DEF 2304
Temperature Range.................................... - 10°C to 150°C


Is available at Blackswoods. A bit exxy, but I'm going to get a tube Monday.

Oh, and the Guru probably would've been relating to the fore and aft movement of the splines, not the rotational speed. The splines will only move a couple of mm with rear suspension movement. Have a llok in the splined cup on the end of the diff. You'll see a polished area where the splines contact. Shouldn't be too much longer than the length of the splines of the driveshaft itself.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2013, 02:42:08 PM by Eveready1100 »
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2013, 08:00:58 AM »
Errol linked me here yesterday when I was putting mine together and didn't look until today  :-X
This is the area I was unsure what grease to use. The Manual defiantly states Moly Grease for the shaft that goes to the final gear (diff) but the manual only states Grease in the steps of replacing a wheel which is this area.
For this area I have used Premium High Temp Red Wheel Bearing Grease.
I am pretty confident I have made the right choice here. When talking with the grease oil guru yesterday I asked Why we would use Moly grease on our motorbike shafts when it is used for slow moving parts, I would think the shaft would be moving pretty fast. The Guru suggested that the shaft is not moving as fast as I think due to gearing.
The moly grease he suggested also stated  some bearing use at the sugar mill so I questioned if I should use the moly on the bearings as well. He stated NO the bearings this was used for at the sugar mill are massive slow moving bearings and the graphite Molly can actually accumulate and damage the ordinary bearings.
He agreed that the good quality wheel bearing grease was what I should be using there.
Now if you look at the final gear/diff although it is spline looking area, whatever you use here will also be the same grease as what is at the bearings. I will take my wheel off again and check how it goes in the near future but I would lay a few dollars down wheel bearing grease is what should be here.
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 08:35:46 PM »
Ev came thru on his way to work the other night, and we chat about things on here as we do,, and have come up with a basic idea to keep them oiled,, watch this space,, :-X :-\ {have to see if it works first}

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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2012, 08:40:17 PM »
Maybe check the Nulon range of stuff.
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 04:14:51 PM »
It's a good thing you found that before it had done any damage in there, Bryan

I guess that's another item to put in the semi regular maintenance agenda from now on.

 ;D Bloody shaft drives. Didn't realise they'd be so maintenance intensive.  ;) ;) ;)
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2012, 04:01:54 PM »
Castrol LMM grease - 3% Moly.......NOT ENOUGH! :-[
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 03:54:16 PM »
this is the goo that I used.....

Scarfey...thx for the link - good reading
I might try to chase up some Krytox...
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Re: DRY SPLINES
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 03:32:48 PM »
I use an EP2 grease, the one ATM is made by BP, in a grease cartridge so I can keep it sealed