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Re: broken float post repair
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 08:46:48 AM »
Hi Jonesey. As for the question "how long do you reckon since carbys were off last?", They haven't been, since I bought the bike in 2001, so far as I know. As for when it could have happened, It probably was in 2006 when the camchain was getting a bit noisy, bike needed a new rear tyre plus the shims were about due to be checked again. They were previously done about 70,000 klms prior to that.
Work commitments had a lot of my time tied up, but i had some cash to spare due to that, so I put the bike into a shop to get it all done for me, for a change. When I picked it up, I was told that he'd cleaned up the needles & seats so I'm guessing that's when it would've happened.
My economy did drop a bit after that, and the bike smelt rich (flooding?) when idling, but it ran sweet so I didn't worry about it then.It didn't idle much when I was riding it anyway. I got a set of carb kits from Georgefix a while back with the intentions of going through them then, but the bike (to me) wasn't running badly enough to warrant an overhaul back then.
The issue reared its ugly head when having a workshop day over at Steptoe's place. He'd done them before and assured me that it was a piece of cake, which it was going to be till he saw the float post. It turned the maintenance day into the repair saga you saw on the video.
We also noticed some pinholes in the diaphrams so we just closed up the patient after the repair to await the arrival of the new rubbers from the USA. Unfortunately, they hadn't arrived by my last clear weekend before the Concourse so we've now switched over to my spare E model carbs that Geoff had previously inspected and declared to be good'ns.
I'll keep the originals in a safe place and stash away the diaphrams & kits with them until they're needed in the future.
Oh, yeah. We will swap the wire for brass or stainless. Didn't figure on the metallurgy thing.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 08:49:46 AM by Eveready1100 »
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Re: broken float post repair
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2011, 07:31:28 AM »
Here's one with same idea but executed slightly different, found this in mine when I was acquainting myself with the new purchase and had it in my workshop for a tune and service.
Previous owner did such a good job I'm not going to touch it.



« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 07:35:00 AM by Jonesy »
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Re: broken float post repair
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 07:41:26 PM »
top tip makzy, will have to get some,, :)  BUUUUUUTTTT,, blackwoods aren't open satdy morns here,, ::), let alone sunday bloody sunday :o :o  ;D

as for the bare feet,, I don,t know about you fellas',, but my w/shop is swept and vaccuumed every week,  I perform surgury in mine so it has to be clean,,,, so I,m comfortable in bare feet, :)
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Re: broken float post repair
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 04:50:40 PM »
Nice work Steptoe and thinking on your Bare feet  ;)to get it up and running in short time.
Hey Eveready, how long do you reckon since carbys were off last or how long do you think this has been waiting to fall to bits can you remeber back when it could have happened. seems funny(probably not to you) to just let go all of a sudden
I found some similar damage in my carbys too.
So to prevent it happening again I made a little "carby tool" to push the pin out without any hammering

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Re: broken float post repair
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 06:05:22 AM »
OR! you could try using DEVCON to make a new end to the post, lube up the pin, place it in position without the float, apply devcon to end of post and build up a blob around the pin, when set, file it to required shape, re-fit float and your off! devcon is as hard as steel and can be drilled, filed, tapped, and will stick like brown stuff to a blanket! Cheers
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Re: broken float post repair
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 02:38:01 AM »
Fast thinking there Steptoe, know i would have half the bowl full of 2-component superglue, and a finger glued eternally to an eyelid with my luck, havent i seen this   ;D

Bet if you`d put the hole in the post as you mentioned on second thoughts, used a brasswire or like to avoid  the very unfamiliar relationship between Aluminium and Copper, and soldered the twitch, she`d have no probs whatsoever taking the next many years with no further action needed...

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broken float post repair
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 08:49:08 PM »
Ev called in the other night,, fuel stains all over the motor, flowing out the air filter,, serious flooding with up to #*!t fuel economy,

we lined up a w/shop day,  turns out #3 is the problem, going on early investigations,,

we pulled carbs off, put them on the bench and started surgery,,

a broken, snapped clean off, swinging in mid air float post, right at the float pin,
      as the vid says, this wasn't expected, and had to be going, no ifs, buts or maybe's
so untill we rebuilt/seriously cleaned a spare old set { the solution } had to work

so this is the end result