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Title: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: BrettS on March 25, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
When rebuilding the clutch I put in an extra steel plate and springs advertised as extra heavy duty. Think it was an overkill but I just wanted to make sure I got rid of the slip.
Thinking about taking the extra plate out.
Do you think this could cause any problems?
Wonder how quick I can do a clutch strip down now?
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 25, 2016, 12:04:25 PM
I don't think you need an extra plate - just new springs and friction plates have
always worked on mine.
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: BrettS on March 25, 2016, 12:06:30 PM
Yes, agree. Just working back to that now. Guess it can't do any harm taking extra out now.
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 25, 2016, 12:08:47 PM
I'm not sure the clutch would release with an extra plate really....
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: BrettS on March 25, 2016, 12:42:43 PM
i did this before I Went to first rally, is that 4 years ago, and been working great since then but the clutch gets a bit heavy on the hand around town. Not sure how much of that is to do with my short clutch handle as well though.
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: BrettS on March 25, 2016, 12:46:27 PM
it still releasing might have a lot to do with the clutch adjustment. After the mod my adjuster did not end up in the normal spot. Old Steptoe had a double take when he tried to adjust it better lol
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: pgnz on March 25, 2016, 01:49:48 PM
xs11 clutch is piss-weak if you thrash it, 70's bike magazines destroyed them first drag runs brand new... 
even worse if engine's been souped-up or even running 4-1 pipes that deliver
 power suddenly at higher revs,
 then there's the bad design friction plate rubbing on the soft alloy pressure plate, means eventually used pressure plate wears thinner, means whole new clutch pack will still be out of spec, extra steel plate fixes all that drama
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 25, 2016, 02:14:29 PM
I've not had any probs with slipping since I went to heavier springs - when the engine was fresh I had to baby the clutch
until it was up to operating temp but heavier springs and new stock friction plates fixed that.
good to know about the extra plate tho...
Anyone here tried the kevlar friction plates?
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: Jonesy :-) on March 25, 2016, 02:15:40 PM
I'm with AussiXS11G.
new springs and friction plates will fix it, since you already got springs just the friction plates, which you can still get new from yamaha.
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: Jonesy :-) on March 25, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
Hey Bryan, what are you doing on line? I thought you had a ship load of work to do to get to the rally......go on...get!
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 25, 2016, 02:20:44 PM
where in the clutch pack would one put the extra pressure plate?
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 25, 2016, 02:21:14 PM
oops.....busted
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: pgnz on March 25, 2016, 02:26:08 PM
 it's just packing so anywhere,  mine's got one smack bang in middle, back then the CB hondas had way better
 clutches than the crappy cost-cutting yamaha effort,
i rode them CB's had smoooth light lever and solid strong with it,
 xs11 clutch is exact opposite
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: BrettS on March 25, 2016, 03:40:48 PM
Just put two steel plates together Bryan, as stated somewhere in the middle.
Mine is out now. So back to standard with heavy duty springs.
fingers crossed it all works and clutch a bit lighter?
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: Jonesy :-) on March 25, 2016, 04:03:45 PM
the heavy duty springs might work against you having a light clutch?
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: BrettS on March 25, 2016, 04:08:43 PM
Funny thing is Geoff states in his vid the springs must be over 42 mm or you will get uneven pull on the clutch plate. Mine where all 40mm. Didn't measure them when I put them in but can't be compressed when only few thousand kms  and few years on them ?

Think I will need to trade in the short race clutch handle :)
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 25, 2016, 07:14:59 PM
Bretto
just man up and deal with a heavy clutch....
Anyone here ridden a Laverda Jota - THAT'S a heavy clutch.....nice ride tho....
Title: Re: Clutch extra steel plate
Post by: BrettS on March 25, 2016, 08:40:14 PM
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