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XS1100 Topics => Modifications => Topic started by: AussiXS11G on April 18, 2012, 09:41:36 AM

Title: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on April 18, 2012, 09:41:36 AM

I had my forks modded some years ago but have never been happy with the low speed damping provided by the units...the preload is fine ....also I have not really experimented with settings or oils.
I chatted with Christian and emailed Mal Pittman to make sure I was on the right track and hey presto..
much better low speed damping...
The valves come with one hole....now has 3 holes....
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FYamaha%2520XS1100G%2F20120416_194426.jpg&hash=6828f50de2fbeecc8fbe146c08bdd4e47dd93cc8)
I have silver springs set at 2 turns ATM - I will source some blue springs as recommended...
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FYamaha%2520XS1100G%2FRaceTecEmulator.jpg&hash=e9e53fbb742f6aabec0263c012f05082aa94be55)
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FYamaha%2520XS1100G%2FEmulatorTuning1.jpg&hash=09ab8709a05f2c4ebc05e3512e630ab33214707d)
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FYamaha%2520XS1100G%2FEmulatorTuning2.jpg&hash=bac77cbbebb10c59f953a57a30eae8863f985e57)
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FYamaha%2520XS1100G%2FEmulatorTuning3.jpg&hash=805a8a50428102d0645a2ffb6cf2a9cdd2f8b835)

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on August 17, 2012, 08:55:10 AM

Well now.....I finally got around to changing my fork oil and this is what I found - so much for my thinking that I had Dexron III in both forks......I can't explain this....might be the basis of all my whinging about low speed damping....

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FXS1100%2520Maintenance%2F12080029.jpg&hash=2f8284bb7ffcd26fc5766ca0f3bd2bebc0034225)

Anyhoo - now BOTH forks have 212ml of this - lets see how we go with that

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FXS1100%2520Maintenance%2FIMG_0806.jpg&hash=0b7f96314eb07469db2d2746b3692b5f655a4173)

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: BrettS on January 01, 2013, 02:51:43 PM

Hey Bryan I am looking at updating the suspension on mine, I was thinking race tech modification for the front forks and hagon shocks for the back.
What setup have you got now and how is that working for you?

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on January 02, 2013, 01:53:47 PM

hello Bretts
I have the setup you see - continuous rate Racetec springs, the gold emulators, (drilled fork components as specified by Racetec)
the preload needs to be set and can be a bit finicky to do.
I am using Bitubo rear shocks but the spring rate is a little heavy - I havent been able to determine by how much or acquire replacements as yet and am compensating by keeping the preload light.
My steering head angle has been modified (steeper by 1 degree) and the rear shocks are longer giving the machine a more sporty aspect than the stock machine. It steers quicker.....

hope this helps
Bryan 

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: BrettS on January 03, 2013, 06:06:32 PM

Thanks Bryan I think I will definatly go with the Race tech Emulator setup for the front forks.

I now have the Bitubo rear shocks on my list of possibilities. I found this site http://www.motorcycle-parts.com.au/Twin_Shocks.htm that seems to give a brief run down. I guess I would go for the VME grade but is there only one type for the XS1100 or can I stipulate a spring rate?
What rate did you get?

I am starting to think I might get a decent brake and suspension package for about $1000 but this shopping is hard work   ;D

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: melbxs on January 04, 2013, 06:45:17 AM

YSS have 3 different options and also do the fork valve emulators. The Adelaide shop are very well thought of from what I've read.

http://www.suspensionshop.org/VIEW.php?brand=21&txtSearch=XS+1100+%2F+S&cmdSearch=Show+Model#searchview

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: BrettS on January 04, 2013, 09:04:24 AM

Thanks Melbs, I was so set on race tech for the front forks now I look I am having trouble sourcing the model info to purchase? They do have a retail outlet in Sydney called Shock treatment. They seem like a one stop shop full of advice. As long as the prices are not exorbitant :(

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on January 04, 2013, 04:26:08 PM

these folks are the aussi Bitubo importers - also stock Raask, etc etc....have a browse...

http://www.motorcycle-parts.com.au/

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: BrettS on January 05, 2013, 01:18:36 AM

Thanks Bryan, I had already linked them in my above post  8)

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on February 15, 2013, 09:32:01 PM

the front end setup is in some ways driven by the rear......I have long suffered from a "too hard" rear setup
the Bitubo shocks, while set with the lightest spring rate that Bitubo supply, have driven the front causing a bouncing motion
on some surfaces with a "weave" effect on fast sweepers.
So.....
these springs have a free length of 260mm, an ID of 40.5mm and are comprised of 8.5mm wire - with a spring rate of 2.4kg/mm
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FModifications%2FIMAG0202A.jpg&hash=bba1b5cf6a243598514a076663f8f37346372a0a)

these new bespoke springs have the same free length, ID, are comprised of 8.0mm wire - with a spring rate of 2.2kg/mm
(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FModifications%2FIMAG0200.jpg&hash=f61573540d3e8696243b897930d6268501fcf766)

can't wait to fit them......

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 10, 2013, 10:04:53 PM

OK fitted and very cool - a nice ride with plenty of travel, just need to set the preload to ideal and
I will be happy - well happier that is....at low speed the outcome is what I hoped for.....
I will be happy if the high speed behaviour is sorted too... ;)

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FIMAG0367.jpg&hash=84eccea654b9acbda3c795eb209b002a14d0ecc7)

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: BrettS on March 11, 2013, 09:47:22 PM

They look like they will do the job Bryan. Do these have rebound adjustment as well?
I am very close to bottoming out on mine not sure if I can adjust that out but they do feel very good so far?

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on March 20, 2013, 07:32:52 PM

here is a better pic.... only preload and damping adjustment - it's only the springs that are new....

(https://xs1100.com.au/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi578.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss224%2Faussixs11G%2FModifications%2FIMG_2408.jpg&hash=e623d01b242cc78ef546f26aacc9d09e3f3747f4)

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: Christian Raith on June 08, 2021, 09:16:55 PM

http://xs11.com.au/Info/Racetech/Gold%20Valve%20Emulator/EMULATOR%20FITTING%20REQUIREMENTS%20FOR.docx

http://xs11.com.au/Info/Racetech/Gold%20Valve%20Emulator/EMULATOR%20TUNING%20GUIDE.docx

http://xs11.com.au/Info/Racetech/Gold%20Valve%20Emulator/FEGV_Emulators.xlsx

http://xs11.com.au/Info/Racetech/Gold%20Valve%20Emulator/Gold%20Valve%20Instructions.pdf

http://xs11.com.au/Info/Racetech/Gold%20Valve%20Emulator/Racetech%20Emulator.docx
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Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: SCARFEY on June 10, 2021, 01:41:17 PM

I use these
https://www.fullforceracing.com.au/plex-valves

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: pgnz on June 15, 2021, 08:43:40 PM

I had some, racetech gold valves, they're
 a gadget for killing hard bumps. From memory
 were dear as fk..
The "gold" just means shiny brass, work by spring-loaded
 disc popping open at the set pressure, simple-as...
Can wind them down or up to suit, just a bolt with a spring on it,
 main "valve" just 3 big holes.. They let the fork
 oil blast through and smooths hard jarring
 from pot-holes or mean bumps.  If savvy you could probably rig some sort of home-made ones for a couple of bucks without too much drama
 

Title: Re: Race Tech Emulator Setup
Post by: AussiXS11G on July 01, 2021, 10:37:02 AM

some info here from Racetec from when I installed mine some years ago

also aout Gazi shocks

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0i31bpdvxt1wxwk/AAA9ngJgpqx7IhWdCkaJIlUYa?dl=0